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Embodiment of Agonies
Creature — Demon
Flying, deathtouch
Embodiment of Agonies enters the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter on it for each different mana cost among nonland cards in your graveyard. (For example, and are different mana costs.)
TheVectornaut on
Black and White - please help!
3 years ago
To stay more in black, I would consider some sort of vampire sacrifice, counters, and/or lifedrain strategy. Your black cards that could work well in such a deck would be Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim , Embodiment of Agonies , Kambal, Consul of Allocation , Knight of the Ebon Legion , Mortician Beetle , Souls of the Faultless , Castigate , Disentomb , Gerrard's Verdict , Revival / Revenge , Despark , and Grim Return . Most of the other black cards are at least playable as well. The only two I'd cut in most circumstances are Underworld Dreams and In Garruk's Wake . The former needs more build-around while the latter just costs too much to be a consistent boardwipe.
Cards I'd look at adding for such a build might be Gatekeeper of Malakir , Anowon, the Ruin Sage , Sangromancer , Dictate of Erebos , Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet , Victim of Night , Indulgent Aristocrat , Pawn of Ulamog , Grim Haruspex , Silversmote Ghoul , Yahenni, Undying Partisan , Vampire Nighthawk , Vampire of the Dire Moon , Malakir Cullblade , Blood Artist , Urge to Feed , Feast of Blood , Heliod, Sun-Crowned , Archangel of Thune , Cruel Celebrant , Drana's Emissary , Indulging Patrician , Malakir Bloodwitch , Marauding Blight-Priest , Sanctum Seeker , Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose , and Pious Evangel Flip.
As a side note, to go infinite with Sanguine Bond , Vizkopa Guildmage , or Vito, the card you need is actually Exquisite Blood which is unfortunately quite expensive.
abby315 on
Meren to Nethroi
4 years ago
The above comment about sums it up for me, unless you were planning to take it in a combo or other kind of direction! Here are some good Nethroi targets that have low power but make tokens or have good effects when they enter:
Biogenic Ooze
Blade Splicer
Master Splicer
Maul Splicer
Sensor Splicer
Noosegraf Mob
Chittering Witch
Creakwood Liege
Akroan Horse
Pentavus
Deep Forest Hermit
Deranged Hermit
Nut Collector
Duplicant
Geist-Honored Monk
Ghave, Guru of Spores
God-Eternal Oketra
Hornet Queen
Izoni, Thousand-Eyed
Tendershoot Dryad
Trostani Discordant
Trostani's Summoner
Most of the above cards create creature tokens, so you'll probably want the usual: Doubling Season, Anointed Procession, Parallel Lives if you include a lot of them.
Here are some 0-power utility creatures to consider, because they're free to reanimate if they get killed:
Arboreal Grazer
Birds of Paradise
Devoted Druid
Incubation Druid
Faeburrow Elder
Custodi Soulbinders
Embodiment of Agonies
Fertilid
Golgari Grave-Troll (also a great include because Dredge can fill your GY)
And you'll also want at least a few additional Mutaters in case you have Nethroi out and want to trigger it again:
Cubwarden
Auspicious Starrix
Cavern Whisperer
Gemrazer
Dirge Bat
Mindleecher
Migratory Greathorn
Necropanther
Sawtusk Demolisher
...all seem like good includes.
Hope this gives you a good place to start and a list of interesting cards to consider. Many are very affordable. Now I kinda want to make a Nethroi deck.
Have fun!
DankMagicianD on
Otrimi Wants to Play
4 years ago
Needle Specter and Cephalid Constable have great effects to give a large creature. Swiftfoot Boots is great in a strategy that relies on keeping a creature around. Embodiment of Agonies gives more evasion, as well as some counters.
mortifolkmurphcaster on
Marchea's Ascent - Primer
4 years ago
king-saproling yeah thanks for the suggestions! I really like Pitiless Plunderer,Opal Palace, and Blade of the Bloodchief a lot! I hadn't come across those cards in my searches and they're exactly things I'm looking for!
I've tried Flayer of the Hatebound before and he's just too much mana IMO. Cards like Dreadhorde Butcher and Judith, the Scourge Diva work better here
Dack's Duplicate is covering the slot Spark Double would fill. Being able to clone anyone's creature with Haste and Dethrone is better after experimenting. Particularly the haste
Drana, Liberator of Malakir is definitely a great card but she's still up in the air for me. The games I've played her she's under-preformed or just died on sight. Currently Embodiment of Agonies is filling her spot as he has deathtouch and naturally ETB's with +1/+1 counters. He generally provides the same amount of P/T that Drana would except concentrated on one body.
River Kelpie is too heavy and conditional for me Grim Haruspex is better in this slot being much cheaper and providing the card draw sooner with her trigger. Disciple of Bolas could be good but I think I'd want something more like Altar's Reap if I were to do sacrifice drawing.
Thalakos Deceiver could be cool for sure but I already run Zealous Conscripts which has been really good but also I little too spicy. I've already had two games where people drop or just concede outright once I get it going.
Aetherworks Marvel seems lolsy but maybe too cute
Impact Tremors and Desecrated Tomb could be great just have to figure out how to fit them
Thanks again!
Slyce on
Beating death with The Cauldron
4 years ago
The Fae of Wishes engine sounds great and fixes (at least most) of the inconsistency issues the deck has and offers some neat options to react to the opponent. I will probably get some myself for the paper version of the deck. Actually I have no real gameplan for the case, that the opponent has graveyard hate. If its Grafdigger's Cage I would try to win with Embodiment of Agonies and Vantress Gargoyle as milling is still possible, but for Ashiok, Dream Render I have no idea except removal. I'll try to come up with something.
Thanks for the input it was really helpful and gave me some inspiration
BS-T on
Who say's dreams (NIGHTMARES) don't come true?
4 years ago
WUBRG87 Last thing I'd want is to sculpt your deck into something that doesn't feel like yours(!) - I love EDH's lack of homogeneity. Happy to give you my 2 cents with the direction I'd be thinking of from here though and with not too bad of a budget...
More of a sacrifice direction that isn't 'aristocrats'; add another altar ( Phyrexian Altar or Altar of Dementia ), maybe switch Dark Ritual for Culling the Weak - then you would have a good level of sac outlets to have some heavy hitters like Gray Merchant of Asphodel and Kokusho, the Evening Star replace Noble/Zula/Buccaneer. It's a bit contradictory adding sac outlets and removing aristocrats I know but I think the aristocrats make better use of volume (like tokens) and our boy Chainer is better off packing more value into a big recur-able punch.
Blood for Bones , Whisper, Blood Liturgist and Diabolic Intent could be included then too. I like your use of Desecrated Tomb here and it gives you fodder for those last three I mentioned.
If it were me, I'd be thinking:
- Falkenrath Noble
- Zulaport Cutthroat
- Glint-Horn Buccaneer
- Charmbreaker Devils
- Corpse Augur (switch for Disciple as another sac outlet)
- Scheming Symmetry (switch for Intent)
- Dark Ritual (switch for CtW)
- Burning Vengeance (Warstorm Surge and Flayer do it better, or drop Warstorm if you wanted to lower the overall CMC)
- 1 of Vampiric Rites , Cathartic Reunion or Underworld Connections (I think there's enough card selection that all 3 of these aren't necessary. Depends if you like the speed or reusability as to which)
- OK I'm stuck on the last one just now!! Maybe Stitcher's Supplier , but then I'd maybe want the Altar of Dementia instead... I'd probably end up saying Dreadbore because sorcery speed. That way Mausoleum Secrets -ing for your Bedevil is essentially your second instant speed spot removal for Planeswalkers
Also, to your point about the 'Compet-o-meter', I'd say the impact will be from the system rating Zula/Noble highly because of combo involvement in decks that revolve around them and the Buccaneer showing up in Nekusar, the Mindrazer lists, which tend to be pretty savage!, rather than necessarily your changes being significantly worse one-for-one. I actually really like Embodiment of Agonies in this, it's cheap and can be a massive beatstick pretty easily.
WUBRG87 on
Who say's dreams (NIGHTMARES) don't come true?
4 years ago
BS-T, hey yeah. Thank you! I sort of agree with the aristocratic creatures in here. it's not like creature sacrifice is this decks main focus, so im not getting optimal usage out of them. They're more for synergies with Mikaeus and a sac outlet and like you said: theyre effect hits all opponents.If i were to try to cut them, have any suggestions as to what to put it in place of them? i pulled Glint-Horn Buccaneer , Zulaport Cutthroat and Falkenrath Noble for Embodiment of Agonies , Diabolic Tutor and Desecrated Tomb and the competitive meter went down nearly 20%. not that the competitive meter is any reliable source to go on, but still. any ideas?
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