Ironscale Hydra vs trample?
Asked by Shwang 4 years ago
Hi guys,
If I'm being attacked by a Rotting Regisaur with an Embercleave attached to it, and I decide to block with my Ironscale Hydra, do I still take damage from trample?
Thanks!
Rhadamanthus says... #2
Assuming the Ironscale Hydra in your example has less than 8 toughness, yes you'll take some trample damage. If it's just a 5/5 you'll take a total of 5 damage.
In the combat damage step, damage is dealt only after the players are finished assigning it among the different attackers, blockers, and players involved. Effects that prevent damage are applied when damage would be dealt, and aren't taken into account while players are assigning damage.
In this example, let's assume Ironscale Hydra is still 5/5.
- When the Hydra blocks the Rotting Regisaur holding Embercleave, your opponent can assign 5 damage to the Hydra in the first-strike damage step and 3 damage to you
- When that damage is dealt the Hydra prevents the damage to itself, it gets a +1/+1 counter, and you take 3
- During the regular combat damage step, your opponent can assign 6 damage to the Hydra (since it now has 6 toughness and no other damage marked on it) and 2 damage to you
- Similar to before, when that damage is dealt the Hydra prevents the damage to itself, gets another +1/+1 counter, and you take 2
February 7, 2020 2:01 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #3
Shwang: Correct answers to your question have been up for a while. I marked one as the "Accepted answer" so that this topic can move out of the list of unanswered questions. Please remember to take care of this yourself in the future.
February 12, 2020 5:27 p.m.
Oh sorry about that. Thank you Yesterday and Rhadamanthus for your answers!
I didn't realize that first strike would give him a +1/+1 counter before regular strike damage, so I would take 1 less from the regular strike and give him another counter. That's very interesting.
Yesterday says... Accepted answer #1
Yes you do. Assuming that Ironscale Hydra has less toughness than the creature Rotting Regisaur has power, the Regisaur will assign 'lethal' damage to it (which will be prevented, but that's not taken into account during damage assignment) and then the excess damage will be assigned to you.
February 7, 2020 1:53 p.m.