How does Sphinx of the Second Sun work with sagas?

Asked by JoltsOfEnergy 8 months ago

Hi, can anybody help me figure out exactly how Sphinx of the Second Sun works in general?

I find the wording on this card very confusing. First of all, does the second beginning phase this creature gives you come before or after your postcombat main phase? In other words, can you still cast cards at sorcery speed with the mana that you get from going through another untap step?

Secondly, I am really confused how this interacts with sagas. Sagas gain a lore counter "after your draw step". Since Sphinx of the Second Sun gives me another draw step, do my sagas also gain another lore counter?

I am really curious if this is a good addition to my saga deck, but I would need clear rulings on how this card works.

Thank you in advance.

Rhadamanthus says... Accepted answer #1

To the first question: The extra beginning phase comes after the postcombat main phase. Since you're at the start of the postcombat main phase when the ability triggers, the words "this phase" are referring to that same postcombat main phase. The game will go to the end phase after the additional beginning phase is finished, so you won't be able to cast more "sorcery speed" spells unless you have something else going on (World at War is the only card I can think of that doesn't need help from some other effect like Vedalken Orrery, etc.).

To the second question: You won't get more saga triggers. Adding another lore counter to a saga is actually a turn-based action that happens as your precombat main phase begins. The reason the reminder text on sagas just says "after your draw step" is because reminder text is meant to be short and simple rather than 100% technically accurate.

September 11, 2023 10:11 a.m.

JoltsOfEnergy says... #2

That's clear, thanks. This cards looks great on paper for my deck, but it's actually horrible in practice. Good for decks that love to play on instant speed, but not for my saga deck.

September 11, 2023 10:36 a.m.

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