How does Ink-Treader Nephilim interact with magecraft?

Asked by doodkyle 2 years ago

I'll give a few examples: Let's assume Ink-Treader Nephilim is on the battlefield along with Storm-Kiln Artist and 2 other creatures. If I cast Leap on ink-treader, and copy it for each creature, do I: 1: create 5 treasures (1 for the cast and 1 for each copy) 2: create 2 treasures (1 for the first cast, then 1 for the trigger that copies the spell)

Next example: Let's assume Ink-Treader Nephilim is on the battlefield along with Veyran, Voice of Duality and 2 other creatures. If I cast Leap on ink-treader do I cast leap on every other creature twice?

Gidgetimer says... #1

Since Ink-Treader Nephilim copies for each creature and not each creature you control, these numbers are assuming that your opponents do not have any creatures.

You will create 4 treasures (1 for the cast and 1 for each copy).

You will copy Leap for each other creature twice. This will give Veyran, Voice of Duality +7/+7.

August 31, 2021 10:53 a.m.

Polaris says... Accepted answer #2

Ink-Treader Nephilim cares about players casting an instant or sorcery (that targets it specifically). Magecraft cares about casting or copying spells.

Any time Ink-Treader triggers, it will trigger all magecraft effects you control for each copy made (if you were the one who cast the spell, you'll trigger magecraft on the cast too).

For your first question, you'll cast Leap, copy it for the other three creatures (not Ink-Treader itself), and Storm-Kiln Artist will make four Treasure tokens.

For your second question, Veyran, Voice of Duality will apply as Ink-Treader has been triggered by you casting an instant,so Ink-Treader will copy it twice for each other creature. You'll end up resolving six copies of Leap plus the original, drawing seven cards, and Veyran's own trigger will give it a total of +14/+14 (just for funsies, he makes his own magecraft double trigger too).

Note, however, that Ink-Treader doesn't only copy it for your creatures; if you have four creatures out and your opponent has three, Leap will get all of them (barring protection or hexproof) and (at the cost of also giving the blockers flying) you'll draw seven cards and make seven Treasures with Storm-Kiln Artist, or draw thirteen cards and give Veyran +26/+26 with him instead.

Note also that Ink-Treader copies even if you weren't the caster. If your opponent hits it with Murder and you have four creatures and they have three, they will all die and you will make six Treasures (with Storm-Kiln) or copy Murder twelve times and give Veyran +24/+24 before it dies (and make 24 Treasures if you had Veyran AND Storm-Kiln out).

Veyran is somehow a Prismari card, despite making you do more math than Quandrix and being busted enough to pass for Simic.

August 31, 2021 10:57 a.m.

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